Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

05/05/2005 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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+= HB 28 MUNICIPAL DIVIDEND PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ SB 172 INITIATIVE/REFERENDUM BALLOT SUMMARY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS SB 172(STA) Out of Committee
+= HB 176 ELIMINATE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 176(STA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 273 PFD: DELAY PAYMENT FOR ALLOWABLE ABSENCES TELECONFERENCED
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Moved HCS SB 132(STA) Out of Committee
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SB 172-INITIATIVE/REFERENDUM BALLOT SUMMARY                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:26:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the next order of business was                                                                      
SENATE BILL NO. 172, "An Act relating to the presentation of                                                                    
initiatives and referenda on the ballot."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:26:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE BALASH, Staff to Senator Gene Therriault, Alaska State                                                                      
Legislature, on behalf of Senator Therriault, sponsor,                                                                          
paraphrased the sponsor statement, which read as follows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     AS  15.45.180(a)   currently  provides  that   once  an                                                                    
     initiative  petition  is  certified as  containing  the                                                                    
     number of  valid signatures  required for  placement on                                                                    
     the ballot, the lieutenant  governor shall prepare both                                                                    
     a  ballot  title and  a  proposition  for the  election                                                                    
     ballot.  The same  mechanism applies at AS 15.45.410(a)                                                                    
     for referenda.   Under existing  law, the  ballot title                                                                    
     must   indicate    the   "general   subject    of   the                                                                    
     proposition,"  and  may  not exceed  six  words.    The                                                                    
     proposition must  give a  "true and  impartial summary"                                                                    
     of the proposed law, in not more than 100 words.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     With the  increasing complexity of laws  being proposed                                                                    
     by initiative,  it is difficult to  provide an accurate                                                                    
     description of the  contents of a proposed  law in only                                                                    
     six  words.   Likewise,  the  Legislature is  currently                                                                    
     taking  on more  controversial and  complex legislation                                                                    
     that some voter groups  may attempt to overturn through                                                                    
     use of the referendum.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The current  word length  limitations on  ballot titles                                                                    
     contributes  to the  likelihood  that  voters will  not                                                                    
     fully  understand the  scope and  effect of  initiative                                                                    
     propositions  and  referenda  that  are  placed  before                                                                    
     them.  Allowing the lieutenant  governor up to 25 words                                                                    
     for the  ballot title will provide  the opportunity for                                                                    
     a  more accurate  description of  the  contents of  the                                                                    
     proposed law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:30:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked how long the  lieutenant governor has                                                               
to act on  a ballot title and proposition that  has been given to                                                               
him/her.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:30:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH said he doesn't know.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:31:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON offered  his understanding  that there  is no  time                                                               
frame currently,  but there may  be an amendment to  address that                                                               
issue.  He asked Mr. Balash if he has seen the amendments.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:31:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  said he has  recently seen an amendment  [later named                                                               
Amendment  1],  which  read   as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     After line 8 insert a new subsection to read:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AS 15.45.180(c)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "The lieutenant governor shall  submit the ballot title                                                                    
     and proposition to the director  not later than 30 days                                                                    
     after the date of the  adjournment of the first regular                                                                    
     legislative  session  convened  after the  petition  is                                                                    
     filed"                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH said,  "On it's face it makes  sense," considering the                                                               
timeframe  in which  the  petition circulators  have  to get  the                                                               
signatures turned back in to the lieutenant governor.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:32:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON reviewed  that  an initiative  petition  has to  be                                                               
filed "before,"  in order to  give the legislature time  to enact                                                               
substantially  similar legislation.   If  the legislature  adopts                                                               
such legislation, then the proposition  doesn't go forward; if it                                                               
does  not, then  the  lieutenant governor  prepares the  language                                                               
that  will go  on the  ballot within  a certain  time frame.   He                                                               
indicated  that [Amendment  1] would  give  a timeframe,  without                                                               
which "time can get pushed back."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:33:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked:  "If there  is legislative session                                                               
after  the petition  is  filed and  a  substantially similar  law                                                               
passes,  what is  the timeline  and who  determines whether  it's                                                               
substantially similar?"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:33:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON offered his understanding  that that's determined by                                                               
the  lieutenant  governor,  and  by  the courts  if  there  is  a                                                               
challenge.  He noted that there  have been some challenges in the                                                               
past.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:33:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LYNN  noted   that  there   are  two   potential                                                               
amendments  in  the   committee  packet,  and  he   asked  for  a                                                               
comparison of the two.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:34:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH referred  to  the other  amendment  in the  committee                                                               
packet  [later   named  Amendment  2],  which   read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     After line 14 insert a new subsection to read:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     AS 15.45.410(c)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "The lieutenant governor shall submit the ballot title                                                                     
     and proposition to the director not later than 60 days                                                                     
     after the date the petition is filed."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH explained  that would be [60 days] from  the date that                                                               
the petition is  filed with the lieutenant governor.   He offered                                                               
an example  whereby session  began on  January [10],  which meant                                                               
that petitions  had to  be turned in  to the  lieutenant governor                                                               
before the  gavel fell  on January  10.   Sixty days  after that,                                                               
regardless  of  whether  or  not   the  lieutenant  governor  has                                                               
actually certified  that the signatures  are "equal in  number to                                                               
that  required," he/she  would have  to come  up with  the ballot                                                               
title and language.  He concluded,  "So, in this case we would be                                                               
talking about  the difference between ...  approximately March 10                                                               
and, hopefully, June 10."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:35:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  clarified that  the  amendments  would modify  two                                                               
different   sections;  therefore,   they   are  not   conflicting                                                               
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:36:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  moved to adopt  Amendment 1  [text provided                                                               
previously].  There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:36:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  moved to adopt  Amendment 2  [text provided                                                               
previously].  There being no objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:37:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON,  after  ascertaining  that there  was  no  one  to                                                               
testify on SB 172, closed public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:37:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS moved to report  SB 172, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  note.   There being  no  objection, HCS  SB 172(STA)  was                                                               
reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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